If you'd like to comment on my t-shirt design please do.



If you'd like to comment on my politics save it.

I really like this design and the statement. Nice job. However, prepare for a barrage of nagative comments...people on this site can't handle (or don't want to deal with) political commentary.

I know Sarah, Infact having looked at some of the comment threads on a bunch of political shirts I actually regret submitting this. I fell into the political trap. Now I will have to suffer.



Here is a pre-emptive strike on a couple of points.

1. T-shirts can be political, just ask che guevara.

2. I know Bush isn't Hitler. But when I hate someone I call them names.

3.I know a politcal tee has never been printed here at Threadless. For a long time the same could be said about jackalopes and unicorns.



:)

to DaveHorowitz :



If you're gonna call someone names, then use

the names that match up to the person you're

trying to slam. You just admitted you don't

think Bush is Hitler, so your design doesn't

really reflect what you believe about him.



Once I read your comments it appears to

me that this design is just an attempt to

get attention from those prone to knee jerk

reactions from pro and anti Bush people.

I like this, the reason I don't like most political tshirts is that they are too upfront and quite frankly boring. I like how you snuck in your references. Though they are still more on the edge of obvious.

I love it. People have trouble accepting such truth. Big fat 5!!!

thank you for asking for comments about the design and not on the politics. I don't mind political shirts, as long as you aren't voting on the shirt because of your politics, you are voting for it because its a great design.



On that same note, I like the concept, but I would have liked it more if the Bush head and the hands were cleaned up more and weren't so static-y.



4

hail to the theif

The Bush administration as nazis is played-out and boring.



So are Che shirts.



As for your design:

The cut-and-paste "I got this off the internet" look of Bush's profile and the saluting hands doesn't mix with the skewed, crispy flag background and your font selection meshes poorly with both aspects. Figure out how you really feel about Bush and try putting THAT on a shirt, because your reactionary, intentionally controversial attempt is boring.

Take the white boarder out from dubbya's head, make him look less lik you were using photoshop to make a stencil and more lik you drew it. Otherwise, it's a nice design. I wouldn't buy it but that's because I personally think it's juvenile to point at any person in a leadership position you don't like and call them Hitler, but whatever floats your boat.

"HAIL" IS MISPELLED (not "heil")

The face doesn't match the hands, and I think the type is good, it just might be crowding the entire design. I do like the colors, big fan of red, white and black.

Thank you everyone for the comments so far. I am already revamping a few things. Is there a way to "update" the entry? I want to implement the changes, but how do I then update whats on Threadless to show the changes?

5 5 5 5 -

hoot hoot hoot hoot!!!!

I invoke Godwin's Law.



(I can't believe this has been up for like eight hours and no one's said that yet. Slackers.)



At least you actually put some effort into it. If you cleaned up the static and the nose ring and the cuffs, like sarahrea said, it'd be a good design. Love the font.

For those who dont feel like looking for it. (those who do check wikipedia)



“As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”



Now back to design. This is why I love threadless. Those comments were great and true and they forced me to find an Illustrator tutorial and learn how to use "paths." And oh my god! I will never have an unwanted jagged line again. There is a paths tool in PS too, but it seems to slow things down quite a bit.



I am going to find a place to post the updated art and again Thank You.

I hate this shit. Natural Disaster, government isn't perfect. Blame Bush.



Zero.

I put it on flickr.com at this address but I think you need an account to see it:



http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=42829148&size=o



If there is a more accessible way let me know. Thanks

Hey Redsugar,



You said you like the font so here is where I got it. (that particular one is called LeeBee Schwarz)



http://freemacfonts.com/



Lots of great free fonts here and it's never given me trouble.

I love how every time liberal rhetoric wonders its way on to threadless people like sarah127 say how people can't "handle" the truth--like your on some higher echelon; like the ultimate truth is what the liberal media regurgitates over and over and over and....................if you wanna chug what they're spewing like so much egg nogthat's fine, but I enjoy being rational.

As a nazi, this shirt highly offends me. The great Fuhrer helped with the much needed elimination of blacks and Jews throughout Europe. What has Bush done? He's inspired a few humorous calendars, a coloring book, and a measly TWO volumes of "Rock Against Bush". I think that Threadless will wait until Dubya cooks a few homosexuals in an oven before they print this shirt....

No More American Flags!!!!

nice graphically, but i'd never wear bush or a flag or any form of political art. that said though this is probably the nicest bush design yet.

ryeofcali, at 5:20pm on Sep 12, 2005

"HAIL" IS MISPELLED (not "heil")



can you imagine going thru life not understanding anything??!

anyway.



i agree with little hobbit feet.

wow. this is great! a total 5 from me. bush is a wanker!

The art of design is all about communicating a thought or idea through visual media. The visual impact is just as important as the interpretive impact. Your opening comment confuses me; I personally feel that it's unreasonable to request seperation of the message from the medium. You should not only expect comments on how this image looks, you should also expect how this image makes the viewers *feel*.



That said: graphically speaking, there is a good balance of contract in your images. The little dot on the wrist of all of the arms annoys me, but that's a very minor nit.



As for your choice of subject matter: I simply feel uneasy looking at this image. It's not a design that I would buy, nor is it a design that I would wear.



Nice job on the revision; it looks much crisper than the original. Good luck on your entry.

i hate bush

provocative, but i would never wear this t-shirt.



it would have been more interesting if you'd softened the Hitler comparison, by alluding to the "X" design used in Pink Floyd's The Wall.

bush sucks and blogs are boring

I perfer my political t-shirts to be less obvious and make people think about what it means. With a shirt like this, people will look at it and judge it (and the person wearing it) immediatly.

shirt is less than original... 1

I could honestly say the only place I would expect someone to wear this shirt would be to an anti-bush rally. Maybe to highschool if they wanted a day off. I guess I really wasn't thinking in terms of this particular design being a t-shirt as much as I was thinking I made it and wanted people to see it. I actually regret putting it in the running, but thats my cross to bear. I am sure the good people of the threadless community will keep it far from a printing press. Has my position on political shirts on Threadless changed? Yes, a little. Thats what dialogue can do... if you keep an open mind.

to DaveHorowitz :



We're all ears to hear how your position on

political shirts on Threadless has changed

a little.

Your words may open up other people's minds

(which might include some who are about to

submit a political design on Threadless).

I just don't see threadless as a political forun,

nore do I think it should be,

or that people should try to use it as one.



big 0 from me.

I agree with cujoelwally. however, that said I do enjoy looking at this shirt. the color scheme is great. the red white and black is amazing.



it really bothers me that on this, a DESIGN website, people can't put aside their politics and actually vote based on the design itself. o yeah and the people that say they hate politcal shirts, yeah just shut up and go away. politics is just another part of life. and political shirts have a message just like the majority of the other shirts on threadless.

Big ZERO for anything with Bush's face on it.

I don't like the design because as little hobbit feet said, the image of bush doesn't match up with the hands or the flag. I think if you vectorized bush and the hands sharply, then used a different font, then made the frame made by the flags much taller ... then it might work ....



and all that is besides the fact that your t-shirt is a regurgatation of liberal media and is generic and doesn't promote good thought. Not that the right media is very much better, they have propaganda too, but at least they don't put it on threadless where it doesn't really belong and will never win.

Bush's head looks as if it was cut out of a newspaper and the flags look like it's ClipArt. Nice try.



As for the message of the image, I might have considered wearing it as the presidential election was going on, but now, after he's been reelected already, it's no use trying. All we can do is thank God that he can't do another term.

I actually first designed this shirt when bush was first elected. For his first term. I don't regurgitate the liberal media. I influence it.



I have since used it twice once to promote a party here:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockland/3790672/in/set-101549/



and once here on Flickr. As far as the look of it its been re-done in using vector graphics and is now here:





http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=42829148&size=o

maybe here is easier:



http://static.flickr.com/25/42829148_0c55718e7d_o.jpg

Concerning the invocation of Godwin's Law

towards DaveHorowitz's Nazi influenced design :



There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups

that once a comparison is made involving Nazis,

the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the

Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument

was in progress.



taken from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Stop demeaning Hitler, he was much, much worse than George Bush. :(



and I agree with most of the comments about this drawing. It doesn't look like it fits. the flags seem really out of place.

Preface to comment: I don't like George W. Bush. But he's not Hitler.



Comment: This shirt doesn't seem to fit the Threadless style. If you want to make a political comment, something like McRevolution, a fantastic shirt, is a little more up the Threadless alley. This shirt is better suited for Moe Wampum (www.moewampum.com).

"If you'd like to comment on my politics save it. "



this is a political shirt...you're telling us what you think...and telling us we can't tell you what we think...



hmm...

Nice one. I'd buy it for sure!!!

substitute "chief" with "thief", and you'll cover just about everything.

so so badass.



i'd buy it.

Hm, you weren't kidding when you said you were going to make political anti-bush designs. Fair enough. zero.

I'm Jewish.

I'm Anti-Bush.

Zero. Comparing Bush's regime to Hitler's is just ignorant.

slightly immature, but the design is great

It's funny how people are so negative towards this design. If you like the design and love Bush, then don't piss and moan. This is about design, not politics, as previously stated.



I'm loving the design.. I dislike the font. Maybe just get rid of the text completely? You can tell what's going on already without it. (:



4.

What's the point about being political if you're not going to be upfront about it? I like the bluntness of the design. Apathy is lame- and it's about time we stopped trying to make not giving a shit cool.

you're an idiot.

Is this one designed for all those ill-informed kiddies who think it's cool to hate Bush? Y'know, the ones who wear Che Guevera tshirts having no idea who he is?



Political or not, it isnt very good.

Hey Daielson, your dog called, he wants his art skills back.

Not sure why anyone would want to buy this, or any anti-bush tshirt at that. No one seems to like bush; so why wear something with his face on it..... Even though its message is meant to cus him to the ground, I don't even think he's even worth the mention, quite frankly. No more bush designs please, they make my eyes bleed. :(:(

a friend of mine created a picture extremely similar to this about 3 to 4 months ago, only it said "Zieg Heil to the president"

>smo17< a quick search for "Zieg Heil to the president" on google shows it as a greenday lyric.

I think that the hands look a little off but I think that that angle would be hard to do. The thumb doesn't seem right and there's a button or cufflink that rubs me the wrong way on those same hands.



Hey now, that's the artistic type of comment you were looking for right?

60 comments - that has to be some sort of record



go back and draw the face and hands - not just live trace



the tag line can be bigger than the design too - err at least wider, marginally

Ok first: you should use a photo cutout of bush where he doesnt look like he just pee himself. second, it would have been better if it would have been a real illustration instead of a cutout. third: change the colour of the Tshirt and change the font.



well, with that said you probably should print this on a flyer instead of a tshirt. And comparing the extermination of the jewes and handicap people under Hitler to the Bush administration is just a lack of iq from your side. Sure I dont like Bush, but more then half of US thought it would be a great idea to reelect him so he cant be THAT bad can he ;)?

Nasdaf - Dark SIde Of The Garden Got something like 107 comments, which is the highest i saw.

WHEW! Thank god thats over!



I promise my next submission will be somehow warm and fuzzy. Thank you for all of the sincere comments. Even the ones that ripped me to shreds. I have since taught myself to draw with paths in PhotoShop and I highly doubt I will submit anymore political artwork. Oh I will create it. I i just wont submit it here. And with that I apologize for steering even a small portion of your attention to Threadless away from art and style where it belongs.

OH and PS if you really want to see alot of comments check my first submission...



http://www.threadless.com/submission/42549/At_At_Boo_Boo



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